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Beyond The Pale

Beyond the Pale is a subversively thoughtful exploration of God, faith, life and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve & Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who finds more fulfilment in the journey than in the destination and doesn't mind coloring outside the lines a bit! Join us each week as we travel on pilgrimage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)
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Beyond the Pale is a subversively funny exploration of God, faith, church, and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve & Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who wants to know God but sometimes wonders why their favorite moment of a Sunday service is when it's finally over. Join us each week as we journey on pilgrimmage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)

Episode 072: Reshaping Structures in Education and Life with Natalie Chan Pt. 1
Apr 21, 2018

Natalie Chan is an educator and entrepreneur who is helping to rethink and reshape new ways of learning for the 21st century. She shares her story of entering the corporate world only to then see a different path leading her to addressing areas of justice and the betterment of society through new educational paradigms.
Go Beyond the Pale with Natalie Chan!

Episode Index:

1:12 Intro to episode with Steve & Tammy

9:50: What pulls us away from what we are used to?

17:00- Natalie’s story begins

28:00 - Opening our mind to other cultures

35:00- Entering the corporate world

36:40- Creating opportunity despite rejection

49:36- How do we learn?