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Beyond The Pale

Beyond the Pale is a subversively thoughtful exploration of God, faith, life and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve & Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who finds more fulfilment in the journey than in the destination and doesn't mind coloring outside the lines a bit! Join us each week as we travel on pilgrimage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)
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Now displaying: June, 2019

Beyond the Pale is a subversively funny exploration of God, faith, church, and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve & Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who wants to know God but sometimes wonders why their favorite moment of a Sunday service is when it's finally over. Join us each week as we journey on pilgrimmage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)

Jun 12, 2019

In Part 2 of our interview, Kristian Holmes shares his ongoing journey as he and his wife forge a new path of relationship with God outside the normal church structures. Along the way we discuss the Holy Spirit, embracing Mystery, and why you can't "un-see" what you have seen.
Go Beyond the Pale with Kristian Holmes!

Episode Index:

1:07 (Intro) Steve & Tammy talk about how Richard Rohr’s “The Universal Christ”

22:18: Interview begins- Experiences with God

29:26- “Same issues, different churches”

36:23- Forging a new way of doing Life

56:26- You can’t “unsee” once you have seen

Jun 2, 2019

Kristian Holmes shares of his journey that took him out of a trajectory towards senior church leadership. When an understanding of what Christ had done unraveled his grace vs. law paradigm, he and his wife had no choice but to blaze a new trail outside the church structure and the security, financial stability, and identity it had provided. Along the way they discover a God way bigger than they originally known.

Go Beyond the Pale with Kristian Holmes!

Show Notes:
2:15 (Intro) Steve & Tammy talk about what prayer looks like for them

27:27: Talking the Camino de Santiago

35:48: Kristian describes his spiritual journey

39:19: Introduced to “Universalism”

41:08: Kristian becomes “Born Again”…again

51:45: …but Fundamentalism doesn’t like to let go

58:50: How to connect with God outside of the church structure

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